BeautyMania.biz®'s ENTERTAINMENT PARADISE
Welcome to ENTERTAINMENT PARADISE! There are already existing topics inside, to view and participate the online forum, you must register first and create an account.

Enjoy your stay!! Please spread the news!!

FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

View previous topic View next topic Go down

FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Ray on Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:30 pm

TIDBITS FROM HERALD SUN

According to an article in the Herald Sun, Ma. Venus Raj lost her Bb Pilipinas Universe crown after it was recently discovered that she was born in Qatar to an Indian man who was not married to her mother. The Bb Pilipinas Charities says this is inconsistent with her birth certificate which states she was born to married Filipino parents in the Philippines.

A representative of Bb Pilipinas clarifies that Ma. Venus Raj was not dethroned due to citizenship or legitimacy issues but because her birth certificate contained false information.
avatar
Ray
EP Reporter
EP Reporter

Posts : 2067
Join date : 2009-07-31
Age : 36
Location Location : Philippines

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by PRINCE CALIXTO on Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:37 pm

Ray ND wrote:TIDBITS FROM HERALD SUN

According to an article in the Herald Sun, Ma. Venus Raj lost her Bb Pilipinas Universe crown after it was recently discovered that she was born in Qatar to an Indian man who was not married to her mother. The Bb Pilipinas Charities says this is inconsistent with her birth certificate which states she was born to married Filipino parents in the Philippines.

A representative of Bb Pilipinas clarifies that Ma. Venus Raj was not dethroned due to citizenship or legitimacy issues but because her birth certificate contained false information.






Thank you for letting us know. I was wondering what had happened... well, is she now going to be eligible to enter a pageant representing India?
avatar
PRINCE CALIXTO
Royal Member- AMBASSADOR OF VENEZUELA
Royal Member- AMBASSADOR OF VENEZUELA

Posts : 5981
Join date : 2010-02-03
Location Location : Now California/ Florida- USA

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Ray on Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:41 pm

according to the Qatari law, citizenship is given by Jus Sanguinis - Citizenship by Blood

the Philippines also followed Jus Sanguinis.

Since Venus Raj's mother is a Filipino and Venus herself is illegitimate, therefore she's still a Filipino, not Indian.

The issue of Venus Raj's dethronement isn't citizenship but falsification of birth certificate by her aunt who works in the civil registry.
avatar
Ray
EP Reporter
EP Reporter

Posts : 2067
Join date : 2009-07-31
Age : 36
Location Location : Philippines

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by PRINCE CALIXTO on Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:42 pm

Ray ND wrote:according to the Qatari law, citizenship is given by Jus Sanguinis - Citizenship by Blood

the Philippines also followed Jus Sanguinis.

Since Venus Raj's mother is a Filipino and Venus herself is illegitimate, therefore she's still a Filipino, not Indian.

The issue of Venus Raj's dethronement isn't citizenship but falsification of birth certificate by her aunt who works in the civil registry.



So she lied'.. WOW.. very untrustworthy Sad
avatar
PRINCE CALIXTO
Royal Member- AMBASSADOR OF VENEZUELA
Royal Member- AMBASSADOR OF VENEZUELA

Posts : 5981
Join date : 2010-02-03
Location Location : Now California/ Florida- USA

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by MISS COSMOPOLITAN on Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:44 pm

Ray ND wrote:according to the Qatari law, citizenship is given by Jus Sanguinis - Citizenship by Blood

the Philippines also followed Jus Sanguinis.

Since Venus Raj's mother is a Filipino and Venus herself is illegitimate, therefore she's still a Filipino, not Indian.

The issue of Venus Raj's dethronement isn't citizenship but falsification of birth certificate by her aunt who works in the civil registry.

blame her aunt!!!
avatar
MISS COSMOPOLITAN
Pageant Fan
Pageant Fan

Posts : 733
Join date : 2009-12-01

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Ray on Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:03 pm

PRINCE CALIXTO wrote:
Ray ND wrote:according to the Qatari law, citizenship is given by Jus Sanguinis - Citizenship by Blood

the Philippines also followed Jus Sanguinis.

Since Venus Raj's mother is a Filipino and Venus herself is illegitimate, therefore she's still a Filipino, not Indian.

The issue of Venus Raj's dethronement isn't citizenship but falsification of birth certificate by her aunt who works in the civil registry.



So she lied'.. WOW.. very untrustworthy Sad

actually its not venus raj's fault. the falsification happened when she was 3 years old. In philippines, being illegitimate is not accepted so that is why her aunt falsified the birth cirtificate for her niece's future.
avatar
Ray
EP Reporter
EP Reporter

Posts : 2067
Join date : 2009-07-31
Age : 36
Location Location : Philippines

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Ray on Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:04 pm

MORE INFO:

philstar newspaper wrote:MANILA, Philippines - Binibining Pilipinas Charities, Inc. (BPCI) has stripped 2010 Binibining Pilipinas-Universe titleholder Maria Venus Raj of her crown because of citizenship issues.

“Yesterday, March 29, 2010, Binibining Pilipinas Charities, Inc. decided, with a heavy heart, to let Binibining Pilipinas-Universe 2010 Maria Venus Raj go after the organization discovered inconsistencies contained in her birth records, in contrast to her personal account of her birth,” BPCI said in a statement issued yesterday.

BPCI corporate and public relations manager Genny Marcial said Raj’s birth certificate showed she was born in Camarines Sur. She and her mother, however, claimed she was born in Doha, Qatar.

Her father, Vincent Raj, registered as a Catholic Filipino in her birth certificate, was discovered to be an Indian national and is not married to her mother, contrary to what is stated in her birth record.

“The legal document (Raj’s birth certificate) is indeed authentic. The information in the document, however, is fabricated, it being filed three years after Venus’ birth by her mother’s cousin who, at the time, worked in the civil registrar’s office,” Marcial said. “BPCI only discovered this accidentally after the coronation, the admission coming straight from the mouth of Ms. Raj, and later on, her mother.”


Binibining Pilipinas Universe second runner-up Nicolette Henson will replace her as the country’s representative to the 2010 Miss Universe pageant. First runner-up Dianne Necio is not yet qualified to join the international pageant because she is only 17 years old. Miss Universe has a qualifying age requirement of 18.

Three Bb. Pilipinas-Universe titleholders had been dethroned for nationality issues. These are Anjanette Abayari (Bb. Pilipinas-Universe 1991) and Tisha Silang (Bb. Pilipinas-Universe 1998), both born and raised in the United States; and Janelle Bautista (Bb. Pilipinas-Universe 1999), who was born in Canada.
avatar
Ray
EP Reporter
EP Reporter

Posts : 2067
Join date : 2009-07-31
Age : 36
Location Location : Philippines

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by PRINCE CALIXTO on Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:07 pm

Ray ND wrote:
PRINCE CALIXTO wrote:
Ray ND wrote:according to the Qatari law, citizenship is given by Jus Sanguinis - Citizenship by Blood

the Philippines also followed Jus Sanguinis.

Since Venus Raj's mother is a Filipino and Venus herself is illegitimate, therefore she's still a Filipino, not Indian.

The issue of Venus Raj's dethronement isn't citizenship but falsification of birth certificate by her aunt who works in the civil registry.



So she lied'.. WOW.. very untrustworthy Sad

actually its not venus raj's fault. the falsification happened when she was 3 years old. In philippines, being illegitimate is not accepted so that is why her aunt falsified the birth cirtificate for her niece's future.





But Venus knew that her aunt falsified those documents.. I don't buy it that she didn't.. well at least, on a positive note, it shows that Venus wanted to represent the Filipino people... Sad
avatar
PRINCE CALIXTO
Royal Member- AMBASSADOR OF VENEZUELA
Royal Member- AMBASSADOR OF VENEZUELA

Posts : 5981
Join date : 2010-02-03
Location Location : Now California/ Florida- USA

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by sayonako on Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:01 pm

Hmmm.. I'm just wondering why Carousel (Miss Philippines Earth) didn't bother to check her birth certificate when Venus was crowned 4th runner up before in MPE 2008? It could be that MPE doesn't care about birth certificate at all hehehe
avatar
sayonako
Member
Member

Posts : 3127
Join date : 2009-12-01
Location Location : Clark Pampanga

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by pepper on Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:45 pm

BUT STILL HER MOTHER IS A FILIPINO, THAT IS ENOUGH REASON TO REPRESENT THE PHILIPPINES....... BPCI IS NOT NSO THAT WILL CLEAR UP ALL ERRORS FOR GODS SAKE, BPCI IS A BEAUTY PAGEANT....
avatar
pepper
Royal Member
Royal Member

Posts : 1371
Join date : 2009-12-06
Location Location : UNITED STATES OF MEN

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:50 am

Ok folks, let's put a bottom line to this situation. First, I support Venus, however, because of what has come to light, I will now support Nicolette. Second, the bottom line is that there was falsification in her documentation. For whatever reasons, for whatever good intentions, it is still a falsification. Third, lets say the organization looks the other way on this and sends Venus to MU. Then let's say Venus wins. Okay, if BbP. Org is following rules set down by the MU Organization, then the MU Organization will also check out all Venus' paperwork (this is accepting the chance that Venus was able to get a Filipino passport). If the MU Organization finds the discrepancies, then they would have no choice but to let her go and let the first runner-up take her place. How embarrassing would that be to the Filipino Nation? I'm not defending BbP. Organization nor am I slamming Venus and promoting Nicolette. What BbP. did may look heartless (and to some a conspiracy), but if you look at the bigger picture, what they did was catch their mistake and tried to correct it in a timely manner and be as apologetic as one can get in this type of situation. Would you rather the MU Organization do it or BbP.? I had high hopes for Venus, but with the time, effort, and monies it will take to correct her "lies/discrepancies", the MU pageant would be over and we would have not had a representative in the pageant. It is time to move on, it time to learn from this error, and for future participants to learn to get all their paperwork in order before applying or else, once a winner, they will fall under the microscope and all the skeletons in their closets will come tumbling out. Let's move on.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:13 pm

Lest you forget, it is just and humane to hear Venus' side of the matter...

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:25 pm

The mere fact that Venus mother is a Filipino national, she is still a Filipino whether her father is a non-Filipino or was born outside the Philippines.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by pepper on Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:53 pm

Search For Official Candidates to the 2008 Binibining Pilipinas Beauty Pageant

The Binibining Pilipinas Charities, Inc. (BPCI) is currently undergoing its search for the fairest ladies in the land to represent our country in the Miss International, Miss Universe and Miss World 2008 beauty pageants with the following basic qualifications:

•Single ladies
•17 to 25 years old
Filipino citizen
•minimum 5'5" in height
•at least high school graduate
•with pleasing personality and of good moral character
avatar
pepper
Royal Member
Royal Member

Posts : 1371
Join date : 2009-12-06
Location Location : UNITED STATES OF MEN

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by pepper on Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:53 pm

it doesn't say that when your father is non-filipino your not a filipino citizen.sigh!!!
avatar
pepper
Royal Member
Royal Member

Posts : 1371
Join date : 2009-12-06
Location Location : UNITED STATES OF MEN

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:18 pm

My friend gave birth to a son by his American beau in Thailand. He carries her family name, despite offer by the beau of his surname--at least to mitigate the "shame" she had to face when she comes home to the Philippines. Since his parents are unmarried, the son is undoubtedly a Filipino [and Philippine law supports this]...a Thai citizenship is possible, but, hey, both parents didn't have the intention to stay permanently--they were just there in Thailand for work.

Please consider the fact that the parents of Venus were expats around the time of her birth. For an unmarried woman to be pregnant and eventually give birth in an Arab country like Qatar, what do you think should have happened to her? Obviously, something had been done to hide that fact. And whatever it was, it helped to protect both mother and daughter...

Aah...I do wish Venus sheds light on the matter of her dethronement...soon.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:32 pm

This is too much for Venus...I would not want Venus to suffer again with our judgment...Let's just pray that she will be okey after all these incidents

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:37 pm

It would be nice to hear from Venus. Her heart must be breaking. On the other side of the coin, however, this really should have been taken care of prior to registering as a participant in the pageant and that was/is her archilles heel. Unfortunately, now that she is in the spotlight, the scrutiny, naturally, becomes intense. Also unfortunate for Venus, that spotlight will bring all the skeletons out of her closet and, in this case, it was a very private, family matter. She is a beautiful woman both inside and out, I pray that she can recover from this and move on. God Bless Her!

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by bangilath on Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:17 pm

she knew about it but connived with her family to produce a false document of her birth certificate and whether it was not her own doing she was an accomplice.

bangilath

Posts : 59
Join date : 2009-12-22

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Eblazer on Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:41 pm

She (Venus) should have told Stella Araneta about her case earlier instead of hiding it. Who knows, she might still have one of the crowns untilnow, atleast, the BbPilipinas World or BbPilipinas International title. Too sad she was removed from the top 5 completely.

On the otherhand, I would prefer Dianne over Nikket, only that the former is not eligible for the title. Another sad!
avatar
Eblazer
Royal Member
Royal Member

Posts : 989
Join date : 2010-01-11
Location Location : Cebu City

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Guest on Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:00 pm

Would you rather hear Venus introducing herself as: I'm Venus Raj...22 y.o...an illegitimate child...? Sad

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Desi on Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:16 pm

Thread moved to Philippines Forum.

_________________
NO ONE EVER CHOCKED BY SWALLOWING HIS PRIDE!!
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
avatar
Desi
EP Dean
EP Dean

Posts : 9465
Join date : 2009-11-25
Age : 106
Location Location : New York/Puerto Rico

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Taxki on Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:30 pm


Taxki
EP Reporter
EP Reporter

Posts : 921
Join date : 2009-12-14

Back to top Go down

Re: FALSIFICATION OF LEGAL DOCUMENT LEADS TO VENUS RAJ'S DETHRONEMENT

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum